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Where does your association stand ?

As you all know, GunSite welcomes all gun owners and we play party neither to politics nor to the various firearm associations.
While we generally refrain from passing comment on any of the doings of these associations, the issues at hand have suddenly become so important to all firearm owners that we feel it our duty to do so.
It is with much disappointment that we have once again become aware of fundamental differences in approach and direction. By now I’m sure you all know the cliché of the circular firing squad.

We appeal to the associations to do what is best for all firearm owners in the country.

We as gun owners once again stand at a crossroad, we have through necessity and in my view against the freedom of association clause in our constitution, to a large degree, given our rights to the various firearm associations to represent.

As in politics or religion, we choose the association which represents most closely, but not necessarily all, our various ideals, interests or believes. The problem comes in, when you have for whatever reason thrown your lot in with a particular representative association and this group’s top structure then makes decisions, which could potentially affect every firearm owner in the country.

Such is the case now. There is a piece of proposed legislation which gives the various associations more direct involvement in the licencing process.

Would you not at least like some time to consider the implications of the proposal, or are you be happy to accept whatever the “management” decides?

This proposal, inter alia consists of the following:

The object of Act 60 of 2000 and associated Competency Certificates is to authorise an individual to possess a firearm - or a number of firearms - providing that individual has a competency certificate.
By definition therefore, the issuing of firearm licenses is more frequent than that of competency certificates. Firearm license applications contain the details of the firearms and the intended use thereof.
The high volume of firearm license applications [with all the details required therein] places the heaviest administrative burden on the approval process not only in numbers but also because of the content and the knowledge required assessing it effectively.
Allocating a role to the accredited associations to assist the SAPS in the approval of firearm licenses would, both in quantitative and qualitative terms, significantly ease the burden of SAPS and result in a more effective approval process.
With accredited associations authenticating firearm license applications of their specific members - before such applications are submitted to SAPS for approval - applications could be verified as true and correct in terms of:
• The applicant;
• The firearm applied for;
• The calibre being suitable for the purpose
• The motivation; and,
• Any other relevant part of the application.
Accredited associations already possess all the information, on firearms used by their members, on their databases. They are able to speedily authenticate the applications of those who apply for firearm licenses.
A firearm license application, carrying the authentication stamp of an accredited association, should therefore only require SAPS to verify the criminal status of the applicant.
Firearm applications authenticated by an accredited association would still be submitted by the applicant at the SAPS station closest to where he or she resides.
The liability of an accredited association in correctly performing the above tasks is significant, non-compliance could be addressed through the direct and strong legal relationship [Section 8] already provided for in the Act.
By engaging the accredited associations to authenticate firearm license applications, would significantly alleviate the burden on SAPS and consequently reducing the time required for the approval. This would allow SAPS to focus more on the higher risk applications.
SAPS may wish to continue to verify firearm license applications for self defence purposes after these had been authenticated by the accredited associations due to policy considerations on self defence firearms.
This arrangement, should it be implemented, poses the question on how firearm owners - hunters, sport shooters and the like who are not members of accredited associations will be dealt with. Based on general knowledge it would be realistic to assume that this group can be described as relatively inactive in the use of their firearms and the acquisition of new firearms. Therefore it is again fair to assume that for this group to continue to apply for firearm licenses without the authentication of an accredited association would not be burdensome on SAPS because of the relatively lower frequency of such applications.
Similarly, the engagement of accredited associations to authenticate would not be a compulsory legal stipulation but a regulated legal facility to be followed or adopted by accredited associations as needed.
This proposal therefore does not imply or suggest disadvantaging firearm owners who are not members of accredited associations or forcing accredited associations to be engaged in this process but instead offers to:
• Assist SAPS with the bulk of firearm license applications;
• Thereby reduce the burden placed on SAPS; and,
• Result in a much faster overall approval of firearm licenses.
Whilst the accredited associations will authenticate the application in terms of the personal details and the firearm or firearms applied for, verification of the illegibility of the applicant in terms of criminal activity will remain the responsibility of SAPS
This proposal is presented as a concept. Full details of the required protocol between the parties would have to be negotiated, reduced to writing and approved by he relevant authorities.
Consultation amongst the accredited associations and between these associations and SAPS can be facilitated with relative ease through the well organized structures representing the accredited associations.
Implementation could then be considered

The proposal above refers to the very same licencing process that is crumbling before our eyes and to which the police, have all but admitted defeat.

Let us not forget either, that the SAPS assured the Minister and the public that they had the manpower, expertise and capability to implement the FCA. As we have recently heard, they have now recruited railway security guards in an attempt to process the backlog.

My question is, why would any association now even consider attempting to prop up legislation and a system that has proven to be an absolute disaster and something which could quite possibly disadvantage many firearm owners at a later stage?

Unfortunately it appears that the current dire licencing fiasco is seen, not only as a huge business opportunity, but of course as a way to ensure more relevance and credibility for some associations.
More disturbing is the fact that some of these people clearly fail to understand or care about gun owner rights in general.

There may be a belief that the sacrifice of a large portion of the flock will appease the wolves. If so, they have certainly seriously underestimated the size of the wolves, who would very shortly be back for the rest of the flock!

Additionally the above proposal begs the question of legal liabilities for the associations.

The associations maybe exposed to liability – firstly by the Police for too easily approving the relevant documentation, and secondly the associations themselves would have to answer to members who may be dissatisfied if the association concludes that they do not qualify in terms of the legislation.

We as GunSite will not dictate what should be done, but until this proposed legislation is adequately explained and understood, we certainly cannot condone the rushed proposal and will use all means at our disposal to inform gun owners of the facts and present our considered opinions, especially insofar as current “behind doors discussions with the SAPS” are concerned.


What concerns us is the following:
•The short time period left for consultive discussion and input. Why is everything once again left to the last minute? Are they hoping to hide something?
•The SAPS and one or two of the associations seem quite happy to bulldoze this through and expect that gun owners in general should be happy to accept it.
•Where does this proposed legislation leave the other accredited associations?
•Will the long term outcome be beneficial or detrimental?
This last point is extremely important and we take strong objection to once again having our backs against the wall.


We certainly need to know of and understand any potential long term negative impact, which a hastily considered amendment may have.

So what do you do?

Time is of essence. We strongly suggest that, within the few days, each one of you establishes where your relevant association stands in respect of this proposal. (Deadline is the 20th of June)
It is in this light that we ask that if they are supportive of it, you to convince them otherwise, at least until we have more clarity on the issue - as some of the branches of the organisations in question already have.

A second and equally troubling situation.

It is really is with much disappointment that I was made aware that SA Hunters intend to put in counter affidavits in the SAGA case.

For those of you who are not aware, the intention is to take the SA Hunters case, where the judgement was that the “Green licences” were temporarily still valid, to a permanent judgement.

But as with all things, there is always something positive.
Well done to that branch of SA Hunters whose immediate reply to the first issue was, “julle het nou klaar met die SADP gepraat.. Gaan hof toe of gaan huis toe.
Gentlemen, we salute you.

Hopefully SA Hunters will be prepared to disclose reasons for this, as I was told the there were no negotiations underway that would put gun owners in a worse of situation.

As a last point, we ask once again that all associations attempt to reconcile with each other and work to the benefit of all South African gun owners.

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Remarks by Minister of Police, E.N. Mthethwa, MP to the National Press Club on the current challenges affecting the

SAPS fireams application and licensing processes

Sheraton Hotel, Pretoria

02 November 2010

Newly-appointed Deputy Minister of Police, Ms Magdeline Sotyu;

National Police Commissioner of Police, General Bheki Cele;

Secretary of Police, Ms Jenni Irish-Qhobosheane;

Deputy Chairperson of the National Press Club, Jos Charle;

Executive Members of the National Press Club;

Members of the Media;

Ladies and gentlemen;
we take this opportunity to welcome our Deputy Minister of Police, Ms Magdeline Sotyu.  We are confident that she will make a positive contribution to our mission on fighting this scourge.  Indeed she joins this ship at a time when we are in full swing with our programmes and remain optimistic she will add oomph on this crusade.

We also wish to express our appreciation to the National Press Club, its executive and members for allowing us to communicate to the nation this morning.  Your platform continues to be a vital link in helping us to reach as many South Africans as possible.  We shall expect this relationship to continue to flourish.

An overview of the Central Firearms Registry
As the leadership and management of police we would like to share the current state of affairs in one of the components within SAPS, the Central Firearms Registry (CFR).  Indeed the importance of this section cannot be over-emphasized.

Our success or failure in fighting crime is to a large extent, dependent on how effectively-managed this section is.  It is a make or break and hence at all material times, its effectiveness cannot be compromised.

Let us begin by emphasizing a point we have been making, that in order to score victories in the fight against crime; we need to ensure that our own ‘house’ is in order.  This speaks to the caliber of police officers, the importance of management systems as well as ensuring that we have in place clear policy frameworks that support our vision: Ensuring That All People In South Africa Are, and Feel Safe.

We began this process by looking at what works well and where bottlenecks exist.  Such a process would then inform us on how, why, where and when we need to fix things.  Preceded by the actions, it is vital to make sure that where we put in place corrective measures, we do so promptly while guided through informed and empirical findings.

Firearms Control Act – a cornerstone in firearms management
As most South Africans would know, the Firearms Control Act (FCA), 2000 (Act 60 of 2000) was passed in 2001 however only came into effect in 2004.  The main reason was to allow SAPS to put in place the necessary systems and processes required for its proper implementation.  Parallel to these processes, the Act required that certain regulations and legal administrative processes be developed to accompany it.

Under the Act, the Minister of Police is also empowered to make certain transitional arrangements to allow firearm owners and members of the public to fully comply with different aspects of the Act and subsequent regulations.  Despite the intention of the Act and resources that have been allocated to the CFR, it is crystal clear that significant problems still exist with regard to the smooth implementation and administration of this Act.

Effective firearms control – our priority
The creation of an effective allocation of firearms and control thereof is a matter that, without fear or favour, has always been a priority for this Ministry.  Our view is premised along a thinking that, no matter how committed we can all be in the fight and reduction of crime; if one portion of our chain is weak, it will weaken the entire chain.

In addition, the importance of ensuring a sustained and efficient implementation of the Act was recently highlighted at this year’s Cabinet Lekgotla.  This area was identified as one of the priority of Cabinet and government’s approach to firearm control.  It therefore became even more necessary to tackle the challenges facing SAPS with regard to the legislative processes surrounding the Act.

What works well and what does not at CFR?
Earlier this year, we received increasing number of complaints from certain sections of society, ranging from ordinary South Africans to organized formations in this related to the firearms field.

These complaints and allegations, primarily related to the malfunctioning of the SAPS’ Central Firearms Registry and alleged improper implementation of the related aspects of the Firearms Control Act and its regulations.  To determine their legitimacy and authenticity, we had to take certain steps.

Appointment of a Task Team to probe and recommend solutions
I then instituted a Task Team led by the Civilian Secretariat of Police to undertake an in-depth and thorough assessment of the problems experienced with the implementation of the Act.

Their terms of reference were straight-forward: through an assessment of the current situation, to develop a clear set of recommendations on how the problems in the CFR administration of the Act could be addressed; speedily and cost-effectively.  This team has now finalized its investigations and presented us with a final report in the past weeks.

The Secretary of Police is here with us and she will go deeper in terms of the processes involved in the assessment, including visits to affected provinces, police stations, interviews conducted with various parties, analytical reviews of the Act and so forth.

Maintaining transparency while finding lasting solutions
We want to frankly state to the nation that the current state of affairs at the CFR is far from what and how it is supposed to be.  That is, if we are serious about reducing crime.  Instead of serving as an additional arsenal to our mission, suffice to say the CFR currently acts as a bottleneck in our crime-fighting initiatives.

Our overall purpose arising from today’s briefing is to highlight these major challenges but at the same time, outline key proposed solutions to address them.  Key challenges identified during the Task Team’s assessment regarding the implementation of the FCA, which seriously impact on SAPS’ ability to implement the Act include:

• Backlog in the processing of licenses

One of the biggest challenges for the effective implementation of the Act is the ability of the CFR and provinces to process license applications.  There are currently major backlogs in processing these licenses and such backlogs contribute as the major causes of litigations brought against SAPS.

On average a renewal for a firearm license could take between 5 months and 6 years to be finalized.  We have been informed about some of the factors that contribute to such delays (incorrectly-filled forms by applicants, delays in the finalization of competency certificates and delays in the conducting safe inspections).  In our view, this is still unacceptable.

• Corruption and irregular issuing of licenses

During the assessment a number of concerning issues were raised regarding irregularities in the issuing of firearms licenses. Some of these include issuing of firearm licenses under the old Arms and Ammunition Act.

There are also cases where a single firearm is licensed to two different individuals and/or illegally issuing firearms to people who have been genuinely refused licenses (such individuals having to pay bribes).

• Integrity of the database system

One of the objectives of the FCA was to ensure a new database with accurate and comprehensive picture of who owns what firearm and when the license is due for renewal.

However the backlogs in renewal applications coupled with irregularities in the issuing of firearm licenses under the Act, raises serious questions regarding the integrity of the new database system.

• Court cases lodged against the CFR

As a result of the backlogs and inefficiencies in the processing of the firearms, the Department has been subjected to significant litigation and court applications (more so cases brought against the Minister and the National Commissioner).

To a large degree, our review indicates that the majority of cases brought against the Department appear to relate to issues of administration which in essence, could have been avoided had people tasked with managing these process acted effectively.

• Management and organizational design of the CFR

We have noted that some of the challenges relate to the organizational design of the CFR is over complicated and does not necessarily speak to the requirement of the Act and regulations.

Individual accountability for performance is not necessarily linked to overall objectives of the various components of the structure; hence the continuation of backlogs with no corrective measures taken against poor or under-performing members.

• Lack of effective communication within CFR

One of the identified challenges relates to poor communication. Instead of communicating requirements for licensing to members of the public, the CFR has rather chosen to keep the public in the dark regarding the licensing processes.

This approach has meant that people who do not qualify for licenses apply in the belief that they have a right to such licenses.  As a result the systems become overloaded with inappropriate and incomplete licensing application forms.

• Lackluster IT systems

The assessment further pointed out that we have invested in an Information Technology (IT) system that is currently under-utilized, as much of the work is done manually.  The other challenge is the management for not appreciating the full extent of the task at hand.

Recommendations to turn-around the CFR into a functional unit
Having provided a much clearer depiction of the state of affairs, it is important to formulate remedial steps to resolve and turn around this current state of CFR.  Below are the urgent remedial steps:

• Establishment of an Intervention Team to address current backlogs

We have taken a decision to establish an Intervention Team consisting of representatives from SAPS (a representative from National Commissioner’s office), Police representative from each province, representative from Business, representative from the Secretariat and other persons as required.

We need to emphasize that this Intervention Team will draw on senior experts complemented by operational people who are familiar with the challenges.

As part of an integrated approach, they will be in consultation with some of the teams who have been involved in turnaround strategies of other departments such as Home Affairs, SARS, etc to derive best practice turn-around models.

We have put a 9 month turnaround time to resolve all outstanding backlogs.  On a monthly basis this Team shall report to the Minister and National Commissioner on progress.

• Urgent management changes at CFR

The current management neither recognized the seriousness of the problems nor has shown readiness to adapt its structures and procedures to address the challenges.  In this context it will not be possible for SAPS to embark on any turnaround strategy under the current management.  We shall therefore effect changes.

In effecting this change, we are cognizant that this management has vast knowledge of the FCA; unfortunately this knowledge is centralized in a few individuals and does not necessarily contribute to the effective management of the FCA.

• Urgent development and intensifying of Communications Strategy

As a matter of urgency, beginning with this public briefing today, we will be intensifying the Triple-C approach: communications, command-and-control as well as coordination. But the emphasis for CFR will be around communications.

Yesterday, the Secretary of Police also met with various affected firearm owner formations to discuss these new proposed interventions we are undertaking.  We are informed the outcome of the meeting was positive.

We have long stated that we shall not become denialists.  We affirmed our position that, in areas where there are stumbling blocks, we will never deny such occurrences but shall accept the shortcomings, while finding solutions to such challenges.

We therefore want to assure the public that efforts will be made to effectively improve our communications across the organization to address frustrations and to re-enforce government’s commitment to implementing the FCA.

• Redesign of the Firearms Registry’s systems (IT and Operational)

This is a critical area that requires our attention if we are to succeed in this field.  The overall objective is to ensure we have our systems speaking to each other so that the firearms licensing process becomes seamless, simple and efficient.

Once the processes are in place, a key focus will be around skills and on-the-job training of personnel, followed by strict monitoring and evaluation processes.

• More hands-on approach in dealing with legal cases

The ongoing litigation cases brought against the SAPS dampen the public’s confidence in the organization.  With immediate effect, we have now tasked the Secretariat assisted by SAPS legal team to monitor legal challenges related to the FCA. They will then compile a monthly summary of cases and report on the status of such cases.

We need to ensure that we are on a sound footing legally and operationally.  That is why our legal team is advising us on ensuring we ‘clean out’ this Force without any legal or negative financial implications to the taxpayer.

• Launch an investigation in all the corruption and bribery cases

While we may continue to improve our systems, effecting management changes at CFR, we still need to ensure that those who have been involved in corrupt activities, are brought to book.

We have begun this process and whether it is the corrupter or corruptee, we shall ensure that they all face the full might of the law.  We shall do this without fear or favour.  We shall ensure that those who are not committed to helping us achieve our goals, are excused from this mission to make way to those who want to deliver.

Those who have not been involved in corrupt in practices within the CFR, but lacked disciplinary focus would have to be taken through necessary processes as well.

Conclusion
As we conclude, we want to emphasize that the challenges in the implementation of the FCA not only undermine our approach to firearms control and management, but it also puts the lives of law-abiding citizens in danger.

As pointed out in our recent crime statistics, illegal firearms contribute to the high rate of robberies, rape, hijackings and murder.  It has also been revealed that if we can deal with these illegal firearms which happen to be in the hands of criminals, we can significantly reduce crime across all facets.

We shall not allow those who are tasked to protect the innocent and vulnerable to become part of promoting this vicious scourge of crime; either by omission or commission.

It is therefore inconceivable that police officers would compromise innocent lives due to their laziness, inefficiency or ineptitude.

What further infuriates is when one asks questions around the challenges in this area, we do not get clear and forthright answers. In fact in areas where one gets answers, they are not satisfactory.

Clearly there are some within SAPS who have adopted and still apply a leisure faire approach in carrying out their duties.  We are saying, their time is up.

2010 is A Year of Action: Ensuring That All People In South Africa Are, and Feel Safe. We cannot achieve this goal if our house is in tatters, hence our resolve to fix things, and fix them now.

I thank you.

Zweli Mnisi

Chief Director: Communications/SpokespersonMinistry of Police
Republic of South Africa

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